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Alan Titchmarsh Show: Promotes ignorance and hypocrisy…

The 19th of March 2010 was a positive day for gaming, with the British Academy Video Games Awards being held that very night. The industry was rightfully being recognised and rewarded for work on the medium that is easily becoming the nations favourite past time. However, on a day of celebration for many, a day that even the BBC relaxed on their recent sensationalist take on gaming and managed a positive news piece for one solitary occasion, a former gardener inexplicably armed with a weekday daytime TV show decided to continue concentrating on non-arguments. Held in the guise of an alleged ‘debate’, this particular segment on ‘The Alan Titchmarsh Show’ amounted to no more than an ignorant campaign of hate, with one of our own forced to sit in the middle of it and take unsubstantiated abuse from uneducated people without any facts or knowledge of the subject.

Take a look at the following video, as I give you my views on a prime example of why more and more people are switching away from the television.

As you probably saw in his intro, Alan had already nailed his own colours to the post before any actual discussion had taken place. After managing to sound like he was reading the classified football results while carefully reeling off the most mainstream titles that have been subject to the general media’s pitchforks and torches, he then decides to offend many generations by insinuating the rationalisation that all gamers are children. A bizarre stance for someone who, as host, should really be clued up and acting as a mediator for the ensuing farce.

After introducing CVG editor Tim Ingham (unaware of the abuse soon to be sent in his direction), Julie Peasgood (nope, I’d never heard of her before either…), and Kelvin McKenzie (a man well known for printing lies in his time as the editor of a particularly banal tabloid rag), the debate gets underway.

Mere seconds into the segment, Alan is countering the argument that violent movies are picking up Oscars by smugly stating the fact that movies have guidance ratings. Of course, this just shows Alan’s lack of research. Anyone who has ever glanced at the front of a videogame cover can see that games are rated similarly to movies and have been for some time. Hell, even a fair amount of non-gamers I know remember the PEGI vs BBFC debate. You know; an argument between two parties that provided guidance ratings for video games… The look of genuine bemusement on Titchmarsh’s face at this realisation said it all. You would think that someone wanting to host a serious debate on their show would have looked into the subject somewhat. Most shows have entire research teams to feed the hosts important facts like these, so just where is Titchmarsh actually getting his (mis)information?

After that moment, even our hero of the piece, Tim Ingham, made a comment that I could probably call into question, when he suggested that retailers are serious about preventing minors from getting their hands on violent content. I couldn’t count the amount of times I’ve seen an unwitting parent or relative purchasing a violent game for their precious child, and the retailer going ahead with the transaction even knowing who it’s for after the parent insisted that ‘it’s just a game’. That said, this scenario isn’t just something I’ve seen played out in games retailers but also in the like of HMV and Zavvi.

What is true however, is that games are not just made for children, just like not all movies are made for children, but this point is entirely glossed over by all members of the panel bar Ingham, who even had to endure booing from what I can only imagine is a mostly-elderly or at the very least, out of touch, audience. How the hell do you become a pantomime villain by just enjoying a particular pastime?

Julie Peasgood, who was probably the most argumentative of our trio of panellists, boldly declared that games ‘promote hatred, racism, sexism and reward violence’. In a way she was sort of right; they did start to promote hatred to me. I hated her the moment the opened her mouth and let falsehoods spew forth at every opportunity.

Alan promoting sexism more than games ever could...

The main ignorance from Peasgood came when she claimed that in a US study in which 130,000 children worldwide were monitored, it was found that kids with a ‘diet’ (you’re not meant to eat the games, love) of violent video games were more aggressive. First of all, I couldn’t find any mention on the internet of this study, however a fellow games journalist thinks he tracked down the non-official or licensed ‘study’ in question. It was a ‘meta-analytic’ study, meaning that it was highly unlikely that the theorist, CA Anderson, had actually done any research himself. The actual method of meta-analysis means that you can pick and choose a variety of other peoples studies and use them to provide strong conclusions in one direction no matter how insignificant the actual outcomes; it’s a very easy system to manipulate and is hardly what anyone could call scientific, yet Peasgood seems to think it is. Anderson had apparently already previously been very vocal against games before this ‘study’ had taken place, and people closer to him had levelled accusations of selection bias. Funnily enough, Titchmarsh piped in that these were ‘proven’ facts. Bravo research team!

Of course, Ingham was the only person to have provided any actual proven facts at just under the halfway point, by pointing out that the UK government-initiated Byron Review stated that there was no clear link between games and violent behaviour. This is true. I think it’s safe to say that when the government decided to announce Tanya Byron’s involvement, knowing little about the woman a lot of gamers were worried that our cherished hobby would be unfairly scrutinised, however what the report actually did was give credence to what we’ve been saying all along, and suggested that it is the parents that need to be educated on the subject of what is suitable for their children to play. Another point that seemed to be escaping the other panellists.

McKenzie, with his history of sensationalism and hatred, surprisingly offered a legitimate fact; that the average age of the UK gamer was thirty-three. He then went onto say that the level of sophistication has moved on that much in a decade that he’s not sure when that will end. Well, for a start, a game’s presentation may have been less sophisticated at certain points in the last ten years, however are they any more violent? Streets of Rage allowed people to pick up a knife and stab someone in the middle of the street way back in ’91, long before Grand Theft Auto was on the scene. Is that setting really any less violent than a contextualised war? Of course not.

His educated opinion ended shortly after his initial sentence and he reverted to type when he suggested that one of Jamie Bulger’s murderers, Jon Venables, was corrupted by videogames. Not once in the events of the tragic murder’s investigation were violent video games even suggested to be a factor in those senseless actions. Hey, let’s not let facts get in the way of a good shoeing, right?

After some nominal back and forth where Ingham gets mocked for reasonably suggesting that he agreed children shouldn’t be getting their hands on inappropriate content and pointing out that most consoles have parental controls on them, Julie Peasgood pipes in with another corker.

‘I am categorically against violence for entertainment, it is just wrong.’ Declared a defiant Peasgood. Is that so Julie?

After googling her name, I discovered that she is apparently an actress and presenter. Let’s just take a look at that CV shall we? Peasgood has starred in popular soaps such as Hollyoaks, Emmerdale, The Bill, and many other shows that portray violence, pre-watershed I might add, as entertainment. Julie has also provided voiceovers for Playboy TV and has done countless shows about sex, so it seems she’s certainly happy to put her name to pornographic and sexual material, but not violence in videogames, or so she would have you think… but I know better. I’ve saved the best example of hypocrisy for last.

Julie Peasgood better look away now!

In 2000, Julie Peasgood provided the voice of a character called Harroway in survival horror game Martian Gothic: Unification. A mature-rated horror game that contained plenty of scenes with blood and gore. It seems that Ms Peasgood is only ‘categorically against violence for entertainment’ when it’s not putting money in her purse.

After that classic, the debacle was promptly wrapped up and will hopefully be forgotten about for ten years when an inexplicably-still-alive Dennis Norden wheels it out for ‘It’ll be alright on the night 8754867456’, but at a time that I personally felt the heat was starting to come off video games as a corruptible source, this piece slapped me in the face that lack of knowledge is still as rife as ever over the last decade.

The problem is that it’s all too easy for people who haven’t seen or played the games causing controversy to hear that ‘Current-Day War Simulator 6′ allows players to ‘shoot innocent people’ and then take the moral high ground, but without experiencing it in the proper context intended in relation the setting and narrative you can’t really judge whether something is in poor taste or not. In fact most of those critical against violence in games refuse to witness or experience these moments for themselves, so how exactly they can form an opinion on it is beyond me. The fact is that most of the people outraged by aspects of games have no idea why they are outraged.

I fail to understand how a host with his own name being the main attraction can go into a segment so ignorant to basic and easily researchable facts. I can’t understand that for the panel they chose a hypocritical actress and a proven published liar to argue the case against videogames. This wasn’t even the biggest shocker; it was the audience who booed the gamer and cheered on ignorance that was the real shame. Could this whole thing be simply down to generational difference or is much deeper than that? I know one thing; I’m not the only one deeply offended that this witch-hunt was allowed to be televised, considering the numbers within the country’s population that actually enjoy interactive entertainment.

Thankfully, by the end of the night, it would prove to be the games industry that was the real winner of this foolish debate, recognised by the British Academy for its contribution to entertainment, something that Titchmarsh, Peasgood and McKenzie will never experience for themselves. The sheer amount of appreciation shown by a variety of respected celebrities, happy to have their names associated with the medium, overshadows that of yesteryear and the standing ovation that Miyamoto received when receiving the Fellowship Award speaks volumes about how far we’ve come. I just wonder how much longer it will be before the general public catch onto the fact that adults play games, games are rated and that Alan Titchmarsh is just a gardener. Live with it.

Please note: I approached Alan’s agent for an interview or his input on this article, and I was advised he was too ‘busy’ to put forward his views on how the debate went. I didn’t even get chance to ask him his thoughts on Viva Piñata…

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14 Responses to “Alan Titchmarsh Show: Promotes ignorance and hypocrisy…”

  • Superb article.

    What annoyed me (possibly/possibly not) the most (it’s hard to tell) was that the gardener, once finding out that games are rated, tried to trick Tim Ingham, with the whole “but you can stop kids going into a cinema…” line. But if his argument is based on likening games to movies, how thick does he think we/Tim is? DVDs = games, surely? You may be able to stop youngsters going into a cinema, but by his own argument you can’t stop kids going into a shop and picking either Call of Duty 2, Left for Dead 2 or Modern Warfare off the shelf…but somehow, magically you can keep kids from DVDs.

    Idiots.

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  • I really hate it when these debates are ignited. Its like people seem to think that we as gamers cant tell the difference between fantasy and reality. I think parents are the main cause of the hatred due to their inability to distinguish acceptable games for their kids, from adult aimed forms of recreation. Its an easy excuse to say I saw it in a videogame, its a shame that people like jumping on that band wagon more often than not.

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    • It bores me that this debate rears its ugly head every so often, but the problem is, games are an easy target. You attack what you do not understand, and if it diverts blame/attention from yourself, then so much the better.

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  • Neil Hughes says:

    Excellent Article!

    I think the most annoying aspect of the show is Julie Peasgood’s attack on gaming and the Daily Mail reading sheep in the audience.

    The fact that Julie has worked on a soft porn tv channel, and worked on a survival horror game is hypocrisy of the highest order.

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  • bickle77 says:

    I think you’ve hit the nail on the head in that its a generational thing. Thankfully the older generation are dying off slowly but surely leaving people my age in their wake (open minded 30 somethings who have gamed since they can remember!) And the majority of us won’t be letting our kids play violent games, in the same way we don’t let them watch violent movies. This sort of thing is why I rarely watch television anymore, too many smug bigoted hypocrites.

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  • Batman5273 says:

    The Author must either read GamesRadar.com, or

    http://www.gamesradar.com/f/the-most-biased-tv-video-game-debate-ever/a-20100324162445218095
    (original article was posted March 24, 2010 by Dave Meikleham, GamesRadar UK)

    Listen to the TalkRadar Podcast.

    http://www.gamesradar.com/f/talkradar-94-prevenge-of-the-nerds/a-2010032610553258024
    (Post date: March 26, 2010)

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    • Well, I can admit I certainly read Gamesrader occasionally (along with a lot of other sites), mainly for the Top 5′s etc, I was never aware of that article.

      I can honestly say no plagiarism was committed, and all the facts I’ve pointed to were researched by myself on Friday night.

      I was aware they had referenced it in this article, which is where I first saw the footage:

      http://www.gamesradar.com/f/more-evidence-tv-knows-little-about-games-or-the-modern-world/a-2010032612333946071

      While I should probably be surprised at the similarities reading that back, I’m not; anyone with an ounce of sense can pick apart those arguments and arrive at the same conclusions.

      To be honest I’m a little disappointed now, I found out about Peasgood’s Martian Gothic: Unification work completely by accident and kinda hoped that I’d stumbled upon something no one else had cottoned onto.

      I had this article in my head for over a week now. Oh well, not a lot I can do about it now.

      I’ve never listened to the Talkradar podcast though, nor am I about to, so I’ll have to remain in the dark about what similarities you found there.

      Thanks for pointing me to those links. We actually also have a pretty good relationship with a few people at Future Publishing, so it’d hardly be worth the hassle. Rest assured, I’m not about risk the hard work of our staff over the last year, and the money I’ve put into the site by purposely ripping off someone else’s work. I don’t work that way.

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    • I think saying an article is plagiarised is a serious accusation. Plagiarism is when you directly copy an article and pass it off as your own. It doesnt cover the same ideas as another individual or opinion.

      I agree that the GamesRadar article is similar but the same could be said for all the millions of other takes on the same argument. Any well researched article will bring to light the same information although the presentation will ultimately be different. I feel that this article although similar is not a direct reproduction but does bring up the same sort of views. we’re all gamers we will defend what we believe to be true and most likely in the same fashion as another gamer.

      You could say any editorial is similar to another making it plagiarised or you could say that a review that covers the same points as another and has the same score at the bottom is also plagiarised. Every single top five article is the same as another. Every single news post too… You get the point.

      I myself read other articles on other sites, that’s what a good writer does, he learns and keeps up to date with current affairs, ideas for articles and so on. I am also quite sure that if GamesRadar had an issue with our take on a television series that was publicly broadcasted they would feel free to send us an email to discuss the matter in a professional manner rather than attempt to belittle the writer.

      This article has been well researched and written in Andy’s own words with his own opinion that’s the same as another authors, nothing more. Both articles are unique to the different authors and their respective sites.

      I hope you feel that this has addressed the point, if not please feel free to email me on simon@thisismyjoystick.com to discuss further.

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    • Neil Hughes says:

      I spoke to Andy when he was researching Julie Peasgood on the Internet and how suprised he was, I know he hadn’t read the article you mention and I’m sure if you asked any gamer in the world with a sensible head would have come to the same conclusion.

      If only 100 people were to write articles such as this which would drown out the dumbed down scare tactics that tv shows like this, Daily Mail and Express that continue to spread hate and fear on a daily basis, maybe just maybe the world would be a better place.

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  • Yeah, because an article commenting on a popular TV show, that millions of people saw MUST be copied from another on the same topic right?

    I didn’t know that GamesRadar had copyrighted the issue.

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  • Batman5273 says:

    I never said “Plagerism.” If you took it as I was, I apologize. If this was a coincidence, once again I apologize. But alot of sites do rip them off. A couple even copying and pasting the words and the graphics. To be honest I never heard of this website. the article popped up on the video games news widget on my cell phone.

    either way lovers of both sites can agree that video games is once again having the finger pointed at them by people who have no clue. Its funny the people people with the biggest mouths are the ones who never even picked up a controller. and if you took away the violence of video games, literature, movies, and television, the human species is still a violent culture. or violence has just become more technology advanced. Hell the bible has violence, murder, rape, and war. so limiting our culture turns more of a censorship issue. its responsibility of the parents to control what they feel is or is not appropriate for their own children.

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    • Cheers for replying mate. Now you’re here, I hope you enjoy some of our other stuff too.

      Was it the Mippin Gaming Buzz app perchance?

      We’re a youngish site (only been going since last June), but we’ve been growing pretty fast, been to a number of big events in the UK, Future Publishings own Golden Joysticks amongst them, so any move to directly copy one of their sites would be professional suicide considering how good they’ve been to us.

      Plus, if I were to steal article ideas from anyone, I’d have to be bloody foolish to do so from a major player, because someone is gonna notice. :D

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    • Neil Hughes says:

      Just to echo what Andy said and respect for posting a reply, glad we cleared that misunderstanding up.

      Hopefully you will stick around and see we are a nice bunch, it sounds like we have a passion in common which is GAMING so would not want to lose you :)

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  • It’s impossible to watch that clip without getting angry at how misrepresented the gaming industry is.

    The worst thing about it was that the feature was in no way ever intended to be a balanced debate it was a pure and simple witch hunt. Tim Ingham made a perfectly valid point by saying that games are subject to the same licensing laws as DVDs which was met with silence, while Julie Peasgood gets rapturous applause after making a completely nonsensical statement regarding games “promoting hatred”.

    It’s almost becoming a them against us style siege mentiality within the gaming community regarding how people with more publicity than sense are consistently lent credence by the media’s canny ability to generate hysteria.

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